New SamTrans Route Skips SSF Bart: Does It Affect Your Commute?

Sunday was the first day of the new weekend SamTrans route -- the first major route change in about 10 years. How does it affect your commute?

The new weekend bus route between Daly City and Palo Alto means a slight change for South San Francisco commuters. The bus no longer enters the Bart station, but stops on El Camino outside the station.

Patch wants to hear from you how on the route that replaces the weekend 390 and 391, will affect your commute.

The bus stop at San Bruno Bart has also been removed, though the bus still makes a stop nearby at Sneath and El Camino.

According to SamTrans spokesperson Christine Dunn, avoiding the actual Bart stations will make the bus route faster for people traveling through South City and San Bruno on their commute.

"We did an analysis of the route and we found that most of the people who are going to take Bart will continue to ride the bus to the Daly City Bart station because it's less expensive to travel from there into San Francisco," Dunn said. 

Eliminating the South City Bart station drive-through knocks a few minutes off each bus trip. But what does it mean for people who aren't just commuting through and who actually get on and off the bus in South San Francisco?

"I'm just frustrated that they  don't go in the station because at night it's not safe and there's barely any light," Sarah Funes Tweeted Monday about the South City change.

"I don't mind the SSF stop at all. Besides using it myself, it's a quick in-and-out," John Baker Tweeted from South City.

In addition to making the route a little faster, SamTrans expects the ECR to provide buses on a more frequent basis to weekend commuters, than the 390 and 391 did.

This weekend, the ECR will operate through Monday because of the Labor Day holiday.

"We think this is going to be a big imporovement for riders," Dunn said. "This weekend it will operate for three days, and we'll observe how it goes."

Take the poll below to tell us whether you think the change will affect your commute.

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wolfone August 29, 2012 at 05:12 PM
Really what good is San Trans if they do not go to BART? That is the stupidest thing I have heard of? Already people are complaining...I just heard yesterday from a person how he had to help a Senior cross the street to BART? Does BART/SamTrans wants a ADA suit slapped on them? Keep it up! We have Colma & SSF working to make Mission rd Bike friendly and ADA compliant and then we have SamTrans who stops going to BART on weekends! Do they think people don't go out of their houses on Weekends? Big shock! I just went to 511.org to look up how to get somewhere in SF on the weekend and it involves BART! So now I will have to walk from somewhere to get to BART? Putting Profit before People! Shame on you SamTrans! Restore the Weekend BART service! As I write this I am advocating for Seniors, Disabled and all the people who don't have cars. Epic FAIL! Sam TRANS SHAME ON YOU!
John Baker August 29, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Remember, this is just for the El Camino lines, not the local routes (which will still stop in the station). For the ECR routes, there still is a stop on El Camino Real, right at the entrance to the parking lot. Plus, it still goes directly into Colma BART for people going north into the City and East Bay and a stop at Millbrae for those who want to transfer to Caltrain. Really, speaking as someone who actually rides the bus, this is a vast improvement on speed -- especially by cutting out San Bruno. And WolfOne -- SamTrans is not putting "profit" before people. SamTrans is in a deep budget hole, and saving a little money here saves money to keep the system actually going elsewhere. Or would you prefer SamTrans serve BART but cut out the 130, 132 or 133?
Jayme Ackemann August 29, 2012 at 07:13 PM
Technically the line does not skip SSF BART it just doesn't go physically in to the station drop off. To save time, it stops on El Camino Real just in front of the station, adding another couple of minutes of walk time for the commuter but commuters wishing to use this station still have access to it. Jayme Ackemann SamTrans, Communications Manager
wolfone August 30, 2012 at 01:00 AM
I just talked to a person who had to help a Senior woman cross the street to get to BART! I've heard all the bla, bla about SamTrans being in the "hole" b/c of BART and not our problem. Our problem is getting somewhere! Especially for Seniors and Disabled...this is not good. I don't think its a good idea to cut any routes.
wolfone August 30, 2012 at 01:04 AM
Ms. Ackerman...I personally spoke to a gentleman who had to physically HELP a SENIOR GET to SSFBART from Mclellen/ECR! Maybe for non-Disabled, or non-Seniors its a "short walk", but not for everyone. And you have to walk all the way around to get into the BART unless you go down past starbucks and still cross a street go into the parking-lot and walk all the way to get to the front. Ever since I've been riding Buses that go to BART they always stop there.
BillSF9c August 30, 2012 at 04:33 AM
"We did an analysis of the route and we found that most ... continue to ... Daly City Bart station because it's less expensive to travel from there into San Francisco," Dunn said. Aside from female safety issues; What about returning to SSF from SF in the autumn & winter, spring rains?!? You may also save by only picking folks up at San Bruno & San Mateo! How very eliteist! Now, if you skip 1 city-stop per month, we can say you are scrimping but egailtarian. Remember, SSF WAS THE hub. Why it is Daly City I don't know, but, dislike. But THAT may have has a reason I could accept. This? No. The savings are minor compared to the spit in our faces. Idea. Since your service w SF trans & BART is so troubled... Almost IGNORE them. (Unless you are getting kickbacks; legal types, of course...) I am near BART, but would prefer a simple bus to care for my 96yo MIL in SF. Just allow me on & off in SF. No scurvy back-door anti-competitive Commy-Red deals. DOT makes the rules. BillSF9c
Mark Taylor August 30, 2012 at 04:05 PM
I can understand why on weekends they want to make fewer stops at certain stations (not enough passengers). During weekdays though, they ought to serve the BART stations as traffic generally warrants it. And some people do transfer from an El Camino bus to another (I do) at BART stations. Where I live, SamTrans makes it very difficult to get to Caltrain San Bruno (20 minute walk on San Bruno Ave stop or hop on an El Camino bus to San Felipe for a 10 minute walk). From the proposed route changes, they do not plan to serve the new elevated San Bruno station either. She is right about one thing though. It is cheaper to catch BART from Daly City than from San Bruno or MIllbrae. It is $3.90 each way from San Bruno and that quickly adds up fast.
Jim C August 30, 2012 at 07:39 PM
I agree with Wolfone on this one. If the bus is northbound, it's pretty easy to get to BART, but if a senior gets off a southbound bus it's a LOT more difficult.
BillSF9c August 31, 2012 at 12:18 AM
You're right, Mark. The cost or a ticket is MORE the cost of gas. Insurance and maintenance? For a 2nd car, (which I had gotten rid of,) it is WORTH the convenience. But additionally, I cannot get off somewhere, as I can with a car, and get back on to continue 1 more stop. I cannot transfer. I nearly double my travel expense. I'm going to replace my 2nd car. You can remove my posts. It will not affect me at all... anymore. (And w/o Bart Police, I'll be safer.) BillSF9c


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